Oct. 7, 2025

EP99 - Mysterious Lights - The Rendlesham UFO Phenomenon

EP99 - Mysterious Lights - The Rendlesham UFO Phenomenon
Season 2

Welcome to another episode of Cryptids, Creeps, and Conspiracy! In today’s intriguing episode, we dive deep into the famous Rendlesham Forest UFO incident. Join us as we analyze the firsthand accounts of military personnel, explore the physical evidence left at the landing site, and discuss the potential connections between this event and other long-standing mysteries. From glowing pyramids to binary codes, you won’t want to miss this thorough investigation. #UFO #RendleshamForest #Aliens #ConspiracyTheories #Cryptids #Paranormal

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Sources:

The Rendlesham Forest Incident: The Halt Tape    

https://interestingengineering.com/culture/21-facts-about-the-unresolved-ufo-incident-at-rendlesham-forest  

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-suffolk-54649675

http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/appendix.html  

http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/halttape-analysis1.html  

https://www.rdrnews.com/free/john-burroughs-and-the-governments-unprecedented-acknowledgment/article_22fde1e0-eac0-11ed-bb5f-a3db8e1a9427.html


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of the CCC podcast. Hope see soon. Welcome back everyone,

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I know we haven't had this guy on for a

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hot minute, but I had to get it back out here.

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I love having people on that I've had before, and

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you have to go way back in the time machine.

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This is Joe from Tails, Trails and Taverns. Hey guys, Hey,

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all right, since it has been a while, I'll go

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ahead and give you a little second here to do

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a little ditty, get a little free advertising in just

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kind of let everybody know, give him a reminder of

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what you guys do while you do it where they

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can find you.

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Okay, like you said, this is I'm Joe.

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This is from Tails, Trails and Taverns, and we do

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a podcast where we go out to haunted places, creepy

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abandoned sanatoriums, all kinds of stuff, whatever we could find,

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and we're all about the adventure of seeking it out,

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checking it out. We tell you what it's all about,

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what it's like to visit there, the history, the legends,

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the ghosts, all that stuff. We got the website www

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dot Tailstrails and Taverns dot com all one word. Rob

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just finished shooting a movie that he based off the

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podcast that he wrote. The script forward to the whole

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thing it's amazing, super excited about. We got a lot

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of stuff going on. It was amazing. There's one other

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book I did one called Claimed in Stars and Chains,

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and it is a fantasy is sci fi fantasy romance novel.

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So if you're into that kind of song, oh.

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That's awesome, and that actually is perfect because I'm bringing

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a UFO today. Awesome, But not just any UFO. I'm

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talking Rindallschin Forrest ufo. Please tell me you know what

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I'm talking about.

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Not off the top of my head.

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No, Oh my goodness, it's Britain's roswell. Let me get

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a little Southern on you. Oh my god, that came out.

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I'm so sorry listeners. But it's something that you see

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a lot. It's in all kinds of documentaries. I watched

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a few of them in to be and I think

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maybe Hulu had some too. There's a lot that cover it.

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I know. There's a lot of YouTube videos as well

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that kind of come out for it. So it's something

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that was very popular and it's not one of those

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ones it's oh it was in the forties or the fifties.

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It was a little newer than that.

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Oh no kidding, Okay, I'm excited about this one man.

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Yeah, so I'm gonna apologize the head time. I will

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do my best. I have all kinds of like snot

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issues at the moment, so we'll see how this goes.

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But hopefully I can edit that out later. Sorry not

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sorry ahead of time?

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All right.

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So, the Suffolk landscape houses the outstanding beauty of fernism forests,

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and nowadays it brings joy to the masses with its

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picture perfect sites, cycling trails, picnic places, and family oriented

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play areas. Which sounds like a place that you guys

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would just thrive in. I, on the other hand, do

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not like outside. So you guys would be great. I

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would not. That's why we have people like you in

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the field.

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Ye all over that place.

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People like me. We don't get out much. I'm a vampire.

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I work nights and I don't go outside. If I

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do go outside, it's fifty degrees, the sky is clear

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and you can see stars for yon. It's beautiful. Yeah. Now,

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during the month of December in nineteen eighty, the Wintery

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Wonderland turned into a landing site whose infamy continues well

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past today. This is the eighties. This is not.

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Something right, right, after I was born. Actually, yeah, I.

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I was going to say you were already born. I

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was sorry about that. Who was Yeah your old part, right?

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I say that I just had a birthday, so I

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feel old.

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Now try anybody else.

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Yeah, exactly what do they call that? Projecting?

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I just turned thirty five, but I feel like I'm eighty. Yeah,

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I tell everybody I'm only thirty five on paper. My

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body feels like an eternity old. The events will be

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discussing involves raf fent Waters and Woodbridge, a military base

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primarily housing US airmen from the Cold War up until

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nineteen ninety three. The facility here had exceptionally strict surveillance,

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so that way they could have extra protection for nuclear

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weapons that are stored here.

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Nice.

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Have you looked into the correlation between nuclear military bases

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and UFO sightings?

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Not?

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No, not really.

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So the ones I know more of are not nuclear facilities,

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just weird places.

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But that makes you guys should definitely check into that. General.

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There's a lot of activity, weird things happening, power things

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going off. There was one encounter I can't remember it,

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so I don't have to look it up. Where all

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of their security, for all of their weaponry, like all

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these nuclear warheads were like set like they were going

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to go. They were armed and ready, and everybody was

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panicking and they couldn't figure out how it happened because

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nobody instigated it, and then there was something that they

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saw outside. It was totally bizarre. So there is quite

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a correlation between nuclear sites and UFOs. A lot of

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people believe that it is some kind of battery fueling

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stations something like that to help them out. So this

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is something that I feel makes sense. Started started the

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whole thing, Like we didn't really have a lot of

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nuclear sites when say what, oh my gosh, Betty Barney

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Hill or anything like that happened.

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Not as much as we would have had during the

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Cold War, especially in late seven these early eighties. Yeah.

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Yeah, so it gets heavy and one cold December night,

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air Force personnel stood in awe as they conducted a

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task of monitoring their airspace above the base and surrounding

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park area. Everything was following typical shift until the airmen

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witness lights coming down from the sky and settling in

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a wooded area just outside the base. Once the object

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descended beneath the tree line, the personnel could see what

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they described as red, white and blue flashing lights emitting

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from the area. So we have some patriotic aliens.

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It's an American UF. Yes, they heard about oil.

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As the lights beamed as a beacon in the forest

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covered terrain, the men initiated protocol as the consensus was

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the object was a down aircraft more than likely, but

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they were one unable to determine whether or not it

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was friend or foe. Three brave souls armed themselves and

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set off to assess the situation. And I'm going, it's

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a downcraft and you're sending three people, right, what are

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these like Navy seals? What's happening here? I wouldn't trust just.

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The ranking people at that base, is what it.

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Is exactly so funny you should mention that. So we

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actually have The military men were staff Sergeant Jim Penison,

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Airman John Burrows, and Airman Edward oh Cabinzog. I think

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is how you pronounce that?

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So one steph nco in two non rates.

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And then there was that's normal.

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Yeah, and then we had a lot of this encounters.

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But there's a memo there's some interviewing done that's done

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by Colonel Halt, Charles Holt. Yeah, and we'll get into

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that later. Now, these men set out to do some

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investigating to figure out what's going on. They don't know

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if it's a threat, if it's not a threat, if

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they need help, anything like that. So the ice and

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snow cracked beneath their feet as they drew ever closer

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to the light before them. As they inch toward the

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ominous object, the sound of nature dissipated. No birds, no

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rustling of needles amidst the thriving conifers, no win sounds.

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Only the sound that the men knew was not of

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natural origin, which I can't even fathom.

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No, when the when the forest gets quiet like that,

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you know something something's wrong.

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That's one of those signs that just go the other way.

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Yeah, it's middle of the night. They're walking out here

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to we don't know, they might be having some sort

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of encounter, they might need assistance that we don't know.

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There's just some random lights. And then as you're getting closer,

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it's like the calm before the storm. Right me, being

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from the Midwest, we have tornado protocol, right, Yeah, because

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all of those Midwesterners. You hear the tornado sirens and

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we go out to look.

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You could see clear across the next state when you

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out in the Midwest.

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on either side, like very large hills, So like we're

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in a valley, so we don't have the best view

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unless it's oh shit, like it's happening like right now.

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Not a lot of warnings, but one thing they do

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tell you is if you're outside and you're watching, or

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there's a storm rolling in and you're out there, you

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can hear things, right, you've got crickets and all this

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stuff going on. But when it gets silent, that's when

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it's ominous and you know that you've got to take cover.

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Yep.

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So, same thing's happening here. And as they got even closer,

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the flashing lights of the Curious Craft start to really

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shine and they begin to make out a triangle shaped

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silhouette hovering just above the forest floor. Oh boy, so

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they've got a light show and they're fucking up on it.

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And it's not a saucer or cigar, which is a

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lot of popular shapes. It's a pyramid the triangle because

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they're walking up, they're only seeing the one side, so

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it looks like a triangle. And once they get to

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the landing site, the large pyramid object appeared to be

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black in color with a texture of glass, so it

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is shiny, it is crisp, it is clear, and it

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is like jet black. However, there's an exception around the

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base of the ship where mysterious symbols etched into the

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surface and they tended to have a dim glow. So

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of course the men, being curious cats, wanted to get

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a little closer. So if it was just like a

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floating pyramid, I don't know if they would have gotten

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as close. But they're seeing these kind of just I'm

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picturing like a low pulsy and only the symbols that

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are etched in are what's glowing. Yeah, okay, I'd be like, oh,

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let's see what this is, which I'd be just like

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these guys, which I guess if your train maybe you're

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a little extra ballsy. I'm probably just an idiot. I

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would want to go touch it, just because it's me.

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Now again, so we're looking at the pyramid, so there's

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a ghostly globe that not only pulsates from the symbols,

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but it covers the underside of the ship and the

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surrounding ground. So it's not so bright that it's illuminating

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the environment. But it's like that and picturing too.

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It's warmer the undercarriage glow that you see on cars

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during the summertime.

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Yeah, so it says that it's glowing on the bottom

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and that's why it's giving out this ghostly kind of.

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Not probe its floating too. You wouldn't be able to

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tell it was floating this It was light underneath.

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It exactly, and you can only see, like I said,

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just a small area around it and not a whole

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but of it.

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Now this is what staff Sergeant Jim. I don't like

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his last name because it looks like Penis. Peniston's gonna

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go Jim hopefully I'll probably say it again, but this

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is how he describes it. It says quote, I estimated

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it to be about three meters tall and about three

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meters wide at the base, no landing gear was apparent,

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but it seemed like she was on fixed legs. I

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moved a little closer, I walked around the craft, and

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finally I walked right up to the craft. I noticed

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the fabric of the shell was more smooth opaque and

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black light glass. So that's the.

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Homeboy was.

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By any means, but definitely it floating around and being

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a weird shape is probably not great.

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Still, Yeah, it's interested me because I was just watching

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something about the ancient Aliens stuff like that, and they're

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talking about how there's pyramids all over the world and

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everybody makes pyramids the same and everybody's at the same

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stories about skotty people and stuff like that.

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Yeah, they're always.

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This guy's getting close enough to get a good view.

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Then with hand trembling, he reaches out and touches it.

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Lay bands on this ship.

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Awesome.

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Yeah. Yeah, ten out of ten do not recommend. Although

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the air nipped at their noses, the surface of the

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craft was warm to the touch, which is where I'm saying,

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I think that kind of con alludes to that ghostly color.

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So you have the lights coming out, but the ship

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is warm. The ground is cold, right, It's December, yeah,

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and so it probably naturally had that smoky, misty stuff

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coming up from it melting and dealing with the ground.

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Yep.

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And when he touched it, the airmen received mental images

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in a large series of ones and zeros in typical

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binary fashion, which at the time he did not know

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what binary code was. Yeah, he strictly.

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Saw and then.

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Straight up and it was like it was trying to

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get it was giving information to him, data dumping. He

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goes back later and he is has this notebook and

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he's just writing one, one, one, all these this pattern

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of ones and zeros that's coming to him, and he's

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just writing it all down. To him, it doesn't make sense,

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but it was all consuming in his mind. Something was

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telling him, you have to get this message out, you

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have to put this down, And so he goes and

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he writes all this. He doesn't know what the hell

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it means, but he's writing it down. That'll come in.

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But just on that as they're out here trucking around

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in the woods, here's where that clip that I was

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talking about comes in. So for my listeners, I'm going

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to find a order version of the piece that I want,

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or I'm gonna get the piece that I want to

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take out of it. I didn't realize this clip was

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eighteen minutes log. When I sent it to Joe, I

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was like, I thought it was like the one I

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listened to was only like a minute or two like

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the clip, but apparently I was listening to the higher

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view and not the down and the nitty gritty. So

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we're gonna, I guess pause here for a second so

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that Joe can listen, and then I'll hit play again

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and we can keep going. Okay, okay, I have to

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put this in because it is adorable. Your son that

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just came in. Where did we ask if it was digestible?

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Did he say salt?

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He said, he asked if salt was digestible. Yeah, because

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he puts him in his mouth and then said it

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it powers him.

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I had to put that in because that was the

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cutest damn thing ever. Okay, we're gonna pause against we

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can listen to this video, all right. So we just

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listened to it. I know it's very hard to hear.

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I know it's gonna be kind of hard to decipher.

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There was one thing that I wanted to pull out

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of this because these men during this recording, this is

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after the initial sighting. They've already been out, they've already

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seen the pyramid. It disappears the next day, these men

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go out and they're recording their conversation as they're investigating,

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and one like, I said, there's a pardon here. It's

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a little fuzzy, but it says it's a strange small

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red light. Looks to be maybe a quarter to a

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half mile maybe further out. There's no doubt about it.

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There's some type of strange flashing red light ahead. I

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saw a yellow tinge too, And then they're like, weird.

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It was how they said weird that got me. It

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was genuine. Oh, this is like fucked up. And then

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it appears to maybe be moving a little bit this way.

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It's brighter than it has been. It's coming this way.

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It's definitely coming this way. So they're like, shit, shit,

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like it's coming. And the prelude that you have, I

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probably won't put the whole clip in there, just because

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it's twenty minutes long, and who wants to listened to

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twenty minutes of that? No offense, guys, but I cannot

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handle the noise. But they're essentially they've got a Geiger

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counter out, and they are taking the Geiger counter out

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and you could hear it clicking in the background like nothing.

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Then they get up closer to the landing site and

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it's starts going. There's three posts that they could see

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or burn marks in the ground where this thing was

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hovering at. And again we all know how pyramid works, right,

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There's three points at the bottom, and they run the

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Geiger counter over each spot and they're noticing a spike

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in all of the landing spots. So all of the

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burn marks have a spike.

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So it was a weird energy, yeah, Yeah, And they

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were saying weird heat or something.

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Yeah. And then I think if I understood that correctly,

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it was not just the three points, like they went

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what they say, three or four feet up and went

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across the center of the three marks.

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Yeah, they were looking at the center too, and it

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still had that strange energy to it.

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Yep. So that's one thing I wanted to put out

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there because we're gonna talk a little bit about it

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probably later on, just once we hash it all out.

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And so they go out and they investigate and they

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have to then decipher all of this. Of that group

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on that video or audio that we just heard, is

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Colonel Charles Holt, I don't know shit about fuck military wise?

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Is what is the authority level of a colonel?

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Colonel is just below general. So that's pretty far up there.

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Okay, that was my assumption, but I didn't want to

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completely assume because, like I said, I don't know squat

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about hierarchy in the military. Sorry, guys, I should know this.

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My other half is ex military, and I guess I

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could have asked him, but I just didn't think about

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it anyway. Halt even later is interviewed by Larry King,

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like he is on television being interviewed, and I took

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like a small a couple of small clips here that

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I'm just gonna read off. They're not audio. It's just

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gonna be me reading it. Of that interview and his responses,

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Halt says it's been returned back to its civilian owners

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and made into council housing, something like Section eight housing.

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I don't know exactly what that pertained to. But King

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then goes on and says, what, if anything, did you see?

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And here's where we get a little bit more description.

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Halt says, I saw some lights. I couldn't explain, very

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unusual lights. I don't mean just a light like a bulb.

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I saw something that was oval shaped, maybe ten twelve, fourteen,

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sixteen inches across. That was a large gap. It had

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a black center. It's winked, and it appeared to be

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dripping something like molten metal off of it. It moved

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horizontally through the trees, avoiding the trees at the same time,

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which would be very difficult if you're in a forest.

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It occasionally bobbed up and down a little vertical distance.

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It came toward us. At one point it receded. We

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were very concerned. We tried to approach it to see

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if we could get close enough to discern what it was.

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It actually moved out into the farmer's field beyond us.

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We got to the edge of the field, we looked

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at the object, watch it for a few minutes. This

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is like really choppy grammar here. I'm sorry. I was

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very concerned because the object was illuminating the farmhouse behind it,

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and I wasn't sure whether there was some damage being

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inflicted on the people that lived inside or what. Suddenly

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the object just exploded silently into five white objects and

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it disappeared. Okay, so you know what this is afterwards.

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So the first one it was pyramids. There they touch it,

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the guy gets the weird lights or whatever, the weird images,

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the binary and then suddenly lights go off, it vanishes poof.

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So then they go back the next day to do

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more investigation. And that explains the Section eight housing and

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we returned it back to civilian owners. It was this

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farmhouse that he's talking about, gotcha. And so they're seeing

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this thing. It's coming in, like the audio says, it's

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flashing lights, it's red, there's some yellow. It's like pouring

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out the stuff that looks like essentially lava, which I've

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heard in a couple other cases that this molten lava

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stuff looks like it's falling out the bottom.

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Huh. But there was nothing on the ground that they

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picked up afterwards.

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Though from Yeah, from what I've gathered, it doesn't have

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the same there's no burn marks or anything like that.

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But what I thought was interesting was it comes close,

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it does this little ditty and then it splits into

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five and just it's off.

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Yeah.

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And for anyone who hasn't listened, I covered the It

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was in Michigan, the Michigan UFO sightings in nineteen sixty six,

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and there was a flashing eye like shape in a saucer.

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It like the saucer looked like an eyeball with red

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in the middle, and at one point there was another

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sighting like the next day in another like town over,

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and it had the light in the middle, a light

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on either side, and the ones on either side shot

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off in different directions. So I'm seeing a similar type.

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Looks like smaller ones maybe hooked to it. I'm not sure.

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My personal theory is, what if they are I guess

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droids before droids were cool kind of thing, like maybe

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they're sensors. Maybe they're you know, you have the main base,

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which is the big part with the flashing red yellow,

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and these white lights that shoot off. Are I guess

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droids that are picking up data, like doing a perimeter

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check for the craft. Maybe I don't know, that's just

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a thought. And yeah. He also claims that the account

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happened around two or three in the morning, so that's

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like at night, like nobody's out it usually there's not

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a whole lot going on. So whatever this thing is,

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I almost wonder if it somehow new when it was

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least likely to be caught. I don't know if they

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did any recon and or maybe they were just like

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it's this wooded area in the middle of nowhere. There's

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not going to be any people here. Maybe they don't

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even know people are a thing. I have no idea.

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I'd assume if you're smart enough to get here from

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that far away, odds are, but there's people here, it

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would be my assumption.

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It makes me think like maybe this is some way

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too expedite sentience or expedite evolution in a creature. Say

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when there was less developed hominids walking around Earth, and

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this thing just appears in the middle of nowhere, and

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they walk up and they touch it, and they get

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a big download of information like hey do this, Hey

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do that, Hey do this, And then one time this

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thing is aaron, a monkey touches it, and then he

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picks up a stick the next day and it starts war.

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It teaches him how to make stone axes, or it

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teaches them how to create bronze or what if this

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is like the information dump needed to like the next

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step in evolution as far as an intelligent creature, you

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know what I mean?

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Yeah, so that actually it makes a lot of sense.

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The only thing that makes me skeptical about that side

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of it is it came across in binary code, this gentleman.

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Then in nineteen eighty they could also what binary code

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was or how to decipher it.

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I was thinking, just like it shows you what you

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need to know at the time. You know what I

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mean bout narry code to him because that's the next

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language for humanity in the eighties. We dot ry code

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back in what the sixties and seventies, But like it

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wasn't huge, Like it wasn't obviously never heard of it.

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Yeah, you had to go to a computer scientist to understand.

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Unless you've been working in the field of computers, you

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didn't know anything about it. So like maybe this was okay,

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there was for something.

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And maybe back then if they came through and they

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gave information, maybe it was like a video like a

470
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:36.880
how to tutorial in their head.

471
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:39.880
Right or yeah, exactly, it could have been something that

472
00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:40.799
they could understand.

473
00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:43.920
Maybe this pyramid craft.

474
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:46.839
And maybe that was what the build pyramids in their essence.

475
00:26:48.200 --> 00:26:51.160
Yeah, oh see, this is why I like heavy you on,

476
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:53.759
we haven't working it with a good ship here good ship.

477
00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:59.039
So then also in the interview there's other people there

478
00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:03.400
in the conversation continues with this is fox You're next

479
00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:06.680
the next series of events, and then Hal goes on

480
00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:09.680
again to say, while we were in the field investigating,

481
00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:12.039
and we were actually looking for the burdmarks on the

482
00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:14.759
ground from what was apparently dripping off this object. So

483
00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:17.440
I guess this is They did go investigate it. We

484
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:21.279
noticed three objects in the north sky. They initially were elliptical.

485
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:25.119
They were illuminated with multiple lights and were moving at

486
00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:29.079
a high speed in sharp angular patterns. We noticed two

487
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:31.839
objects to the south. One of them approached us at

488
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:34.880
a very high speed and sent down a beam. Beat

489
00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:40.119
me up, Scottie. Sorry, I would equate it to be

490
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:43.519
a laser beam at our feet. And then King then

491
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:47.279
goes who is we? And he says there were five

492
00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:52.880
of us. I took five people out to investigate. Although

493
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:56.119
is that five plus him or five times?

494
00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:57.160
That's five?

495
00:27:58.119 --> 00:28:01.519
Later on, okay, and then it says, what did your

496
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:04.839
commanding superiors say? Is what King asks, and Halt says.

497
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:08.200
At that time, my superiors were silent. It was two

498
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:10.720
or three o'clock in the morning. I was communicating with

499
00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:14.359
the command post. I did take an audio tape. In fact,

500
00:28:14.400 --> 00:28:17.480
I brought the original tape recorder with me. It's a

501
00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:21.720
little linear tape recorder that I carried around at the base,

502
00:28:22.160 --> 00:28:24.880
and I made a tape recording, which is about fifteen

503
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:29.079
to twenty minutes long. It's rather famous. Now, so that's

504
00:28:29.240 --> 00:28:32.599
he's said, that's the recording, yew yep, that's the tape.

505
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:36.119
So that tape is obviously when they're going So that

506
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:40.000
makes sense as far as the timeframe, if you're listening

507
00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:43.000
to what they're saying in the tape, I'm gonna put

508
00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:46.200
I'm gonna probably insert a portion of the tape into

509
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:51.440
the episode, but I'm going to link the entire audio

510
00:28:51.680 --> 00:28:53.279
down below in the description. So if you want to

511
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:56.000
listen to the whole thing, just check below. The link's

512
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.000
going to be there, and I might put a YouTube

513
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:02.039
version and then just audio file version just to see

514
00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:04.240
maybe the quality is a little different. I want to

515
00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:06.960
cover all the bases, so I would just link a

516
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:09.519
YouTube video below. That was helpful. It was a lot

517
00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:12.279
clearer from what I gathered whenever I was listening to it.

518
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:14.680
While you were listening to it, it is a lot clearer.

519
00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:15.920
Than it was, a lot clearer than YouTube.

520
00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:17.799
Yeah, so I wonder if they got rid of some

521
00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:20.319
of the background noise or something in the it was

522
00:29:20.359 --> 00:29:24.200
doctored a little or something. I'm not sure. So they

523
00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:27.480
go out and investigate, right, and they see some shit.

524
00:29:28.319 --> 00:29:30.799
I can't even imagine what's going through these guys' heads

525
00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:32.720
as they're out there, because like, you don't know, Like

526
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:34.720
I said, you don't know if you're being attacked or not.

527
00:29:36.079 --> 00:29:39.720
Then Halt has to make a memo for the military,

528
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:42.440
like he has to summarize what was happening and put

529
00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:47.559
it on the record. Yeah, I'm sure the military has

530
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:51.440
it's bureaucracy and red tape and all of that p's

531
00:29:51.480 --> 00:29:53.160
and q's, and you gotta do a form for this

532
00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:55.079
and a form for that. I'm just assuming. I don't

533
00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.039
know for sure, but that would be my assumption that

534
00:29:57.079 --> 00:30:00.799
they're anal about everything. Yep, pre paar assumption.

535
00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:02.720
That's oh yeah, that's accurate.

536
00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:09.759
Okay. I took the first three sections. That's one section

537
00:30:09.880 --> 00:30:13.519
I guess total, with three parts of this memo that

538
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:17.960
Halt made, and this was his account is as early

539
00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:21.200
in the morning of twenty seven December eighty which I

540
00:30:21.240 --> 00:30:23.359
know is choppy, but you guys can figure it out.

541
00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:28.839
Two USAF Security Police patrolmen saw unusual lights outside the

542
00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:32.880
back gate at rf Woodbridge. Thinking an aircraft might have

543
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:35.440
crashed or been forced down, they called for permission to

544
00:30:35.480 --> 00:30:38.440
go outside and gate, to go outside the gate to

545
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:42.200
investigate the on duty flight, which is a whole reference number.

546
00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:43.519
I'm not going to readle that out. It's a bunch

547
00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:46.759
of threes, responded and allowed the patrol men to proceed

548
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:50.359
on foot. The individuals reported seeing a strange, glowing object

549
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:53.359
in the forest. The object was described as a metallic

550
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:56.880
in appearance and triangular in shape, approximately two to three

551
00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.519
feet across or no. Two to three meters sorry the

552
00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:04.920
base and approximately two meters high. It illuminated the entire

553
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:08.960
forest with a white light. The object itself had pulsing

554
00:31:08.960 --> 00:31:12.720
red light on top and a bank or banks of

555
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:16.720
blue lights underneath. The object was hovering. Oh gosh, the

556
00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:20.119
object was hovering or on legs. There we go. As

557
00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:22.559
the patrolman approached the object and maneuvered through the trees

558
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:25.680
and disappeared. At this time, the animals on a nearby

559
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.880
farm went into a frenzy. The object was briefly cited

560
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:33.160
approximately an hour later near the back gate. The next day,

561
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:36.000
three depressions one and a half inch deep and seven

562
00:31:36.039 --> 00:31:38.319
inches in diameter were found where the object had been

563
00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:40.960
sighted on the ground. The following night, which is the

564
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:44.480
twenty ninth, so we're doing first sighting next night. They

565
00:31:44.519 --> 00:31:47.480
go investigate next night. The area was checked for radiation

566
00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:54.799
beta slash gamma. Readings of zero point one. Oh my goodness, Milla,

567
00:31:56.960 --> 00:32:01.680
something's I don't know. Oh sorry, guys, I'm definitely not

568
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:06.160
in the Geiger industry were recorded at the peak readings

569
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.680
in the three depressions and near the center of the

570
00:32:08.720 --> 00:32:11.680
triangle formed by the depressions. A nearby tree had a

571
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.160
moderate which is point zero five to point zero seven

572
00:32:14.400 --> 00:32:17.079
readings on the side of the tree towards the depressions.

573
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:20.400
I'll just go ahead read this last part here and

574
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:22.720
then we'll go over that. Later in the night, a

575
00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.960
red sunlight light was seen through the trees. It moved

576
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:29.200
about and pulsed. At one point it appeared to throw

577
00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:32.240
off glowing particles, and then broke off into five separate

578
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:37.039
white objects and then disappeared. Immediately thereafter, three star like

579
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.079
objects were noticed in the sky, two objects to the

580
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:42.720
north and one to the south, all of which were

581
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:46.640
about ten inches off the horizon. The objects moved rapidly

582
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:50.839
in sharp angular movements and displayed red, green, and blue lights.

583
00:32:51.200 --> 00:32:53.839
The objects to the north appeared to be elliptical through

584
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:57.799
a twelve to eight power lens. They then turned into

585
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:00.240
full circles. The objects to the north remained in the

586
00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:02.759
sky for an hour or more. The object to the

587
00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:05.720
south was visible for two or three more hours and

588
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.559
beamed down a stream of light from time to time.

589
00:33:09.039 --> 00:33:13.880
Numerous individuals, including the undersigned, witnessed the activities in paragraphs

590
00:33:13.920 --> 00:33:17.279
two and three. Sorry, I know that was a little lengthy,

591
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:19.279
but I didn't want to take bits and pieces because

592
00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:23.599
I felt like it was all pertinent information. So one

593
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:26.400
thing I thought was interesting is when they go to

594
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:28.799
do the readings the three markers where the things were down,

595
00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:32.279
higher readings in the center also a higher reading. But

596
00:33:32.400 --> 00:33:34.720
not only that, but on the trees, which in the

597
00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:38.559
tape you could hear them describing that there were branches

598
00:33:38.680 --> 00:33:42.160
above them that had been broken. Something had come down

599
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:45.920
into this area, and the sides of the trees that

600
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:50.400
were facing where the craft would have been also emitted

601
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:54.799
some kind of reading, whereas the backside facing away from

602
00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:59.279
the craft did not have that. So I thought that

603
00:33:59.400 --> 00:34:01.359
was Yeah, I thought that was a little bit crazy

604
00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:05.960
because this whole section is essentially lighting up with the

605
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:12.079
gameras and there's a lot going on. It's very descriptive,

606
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:14.320
which I always feel as good news. They're not just like, oh,

607
00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:16.519
there were some depressions in the ground. No, it's one

608
00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:19.840
and a half inches deep, seven inches in diameter, three

609
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:24.320
different places, So it's very descriptive. Not only that, but

610
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:27.679
more than one person signed as a witness to this.

611
00:34:29.280 --> 00:34:35.880
There were five people out here investigating. Like five yeah, trained,

612
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:39.679
I'm assuming hoping well trained, but at least trained in

613
00:34:39.719 --> 00:34:44.920
some way to keep their cool under pressure. And you

614
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.719
can hear in their voices on the recording that they're

615
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:49.679
even thrown off a little bit, like they are not

616
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:53.440
ready to find what they're finding, And I feel like

617
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:59.440
that kind of adds a little bit. I guess authenticity

618
00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:04.920
of the event one having all of this information, and again,

619
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:10.440
these men are not like me. I have horrible depth perception,

620
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.679
and you could it could be ten feet or ten

621
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:15.559
yards for me, and I don't know. I'm like, I

622
00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:18.239
don't know about that far. I have no idea, not

623
00:35:18.360 --> 00:35:22.519
the last clue, and so I wouldn't be able to

624
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:27.440
give accurate estimates, whereas these men are trained to be

625
00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:30.239
able to see these things and gauge these things because

626
00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:33.280
it is a safety issue.

627
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:34.480
Right, fair assumption.

628
00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:39.760
If you're wanting to protect yourself or go after a person,

629
00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:42.639
you need to know if they're twenty feet or twenty

630
00:35:42.719 --> 00:35:43.280
yards away.

631
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:47.239
Yeah, yeah, I could have a pretty good idea some distance.

632
00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:53.800
So to me, having the more specific measurements and the

633
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:56.159
people reading them, I feel like that adds to it.

634
00:35:57.119 --> 00:35:59.920
And then not only that, but there's physical, like actual

635
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:05.760
physical evidence on the earth to support something was here.

636
00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:10.159
The branches that break. It's only in the section. Something

637
00:36:10.239 --> 00:36:15.079
came from above to the ground and broke the branches

638
00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:18.920
on the way down. And to me, I know sometimes

639
00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:21.239
they're like, oh, yeah, I saw this ship, but there's

640
00:36:21.239 --> 00:36:25.760
never any mention of treetops being damaged or the surrounding

641
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:27.679
area being damaged. It's just, oh, I saw this thing

642
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:34.920
and it disappeared, which is fine for excusing you are

643
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:39.320
looking at it. It's hard to explain anything else because

644
00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:43.480
at the same time, you've got to think, if this

645
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:46.800
thing's coming down, you're having identical marks. If this is

646
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:50.519
a thick wooded area, you're gonna have identical marks essentially

647
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:55.000
on three points of that wherever clearing is that are

648
00:36:55.039 --> 00:36:57.800
going to be the same hype each time. You know

649
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:00.000
what I mean, it's not like you've got one over here,

650
00:37:00.280 --> 00:37:02.320
one that could be up or down. Maybe it broke

651
00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:05.880
ten years before. This is gonna be fresh and in

652
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:09.199
the same spots on the way down. So I feel

653
00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:12.880
like that's added veracity. I guess you could say on that.

654
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:22.400
So what I struggled with the timing, So you have

655
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:25.000
the initial one where the three points it comes down.

656
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:31.320
When they went to investigate the next day, I don't

657
00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:36.719
remember there being mentioned of it being pyramid shaped. It

658
00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:41.000
was something was there. It's dark, it's further away. They

659
00:37:41.000 --> 00:37:44.239
didn't walk straight up to it like the other one.

660
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:48.239
They were watching it from. Oh, dear god, how far

661
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:52.960
did it say? So one's out there? The next day

662
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:59.159
they found this later that night through the trees. I

663
00:37:59.239 --> 00:38:01.400
sounds like going to see if it told us. So

664
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:03.679
this says the two objects north in the one south,

665
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:06.159
we're Oh. I guess it wasn't ten inches. It was

666
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:12.039
ten degrees I could read. So it's ten degrees off

667
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:16.679
the horizon, So I'm guessing that means it's farther away.

668
00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:16.920
This.

669
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:19.199
Oh, it appeared to be elliptical through an eight to

670
00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:21.199
twelve power lens. I don't know what that means. What

671
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:23.360
does that mean? Do you know what that means? What's

672
00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:25.840
an eight to twelve power lens?

673
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:27.800
Just an eight or ten g zoom.

674
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:31.000
So it's like, okay, okay, So if that's the case,

675
00:38:31.039 --> 00:38:33.880
then we're talking about they're looking at something and it's

676
00:38:33.880 --> 00:38:37.239
still not like super super close. Yeah, but we're talking

677
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:41.599
eight to twelve times something. That's a huge difference. So

678
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:44.639
these things are probably a bit further away, which maybe

679
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:46.559
is why they just bainly see the pulsing lights and

680
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:49.159
then they're watching this beam come down. They don't know

681
00:38:49.199 --> 00:38:52.199
where it's going, they just see it every so often

682
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:53.719
coming down. What if they're picking up cows?

683
00:38:55.159 --> 00:38:58.639
Could be it was a fall snatching sheep or something.

684
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:07.559
Yeah, I'm taking metle calmutilation, I know, but I wish

685
00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:08.880
it was. That would make sense.

686
00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:14.280
Maybe they looking for cows but they didn't find any.

687
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:21.519
Bring up there, nope, donkey, Yeah, this is a piglet

688
00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:22.000
center back.

689
00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:24.400
We don't need that brown squirrel.

690
00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:27.000
We got millions of these things. This is so last year.

691
00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:33.440
But that's where I get at. You have physical evidence

692
00:39:33.480 --> 00:39:36.360
on the ground, you have the audio tape of the investigation,

693
00:39:36.519 --> 00:39:38.559
and you have the memo to go off of. So

694
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:43.159
All of these are good pieces of evidence.

695
00:39:42.840 --> 00:39:45.960
Right, Yeah, even the tape itself. You got two or

696
00:39:45.960 --> 00:39:48.440
three different people that you can hear on there describing

697
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:49.159
the same thing.

698
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:54.719
Yep, exactly. And what gets me is there's still a

699
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:56.880
question as to whether or not it's a UFO. They

700
00:39:56.960 --> 00:39:59.039
refuse to say it is a UFO.

701
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:01.199
They're all just saying it's weird.

702
00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:04.880
They're just saying, but nobody will put that label on

703
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:06.480
the fact that it is a UFO.

704
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:11.079
Yeah, nobody wants to say definitively until they identify it definitively.

705
00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:13.840
They don't want to say what they think it is exactly.

706
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:19.119
It's never a spaceship, it's never alien, it's nothing. But

707
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:22.719
there's so much. To me, there's overwhelming amount of evidence

708
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:26.239
to support it is extraterrestrial.

709
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:30.719
It is definitely mean unidentified flying object.

710
00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:34.960
I guess I don't know what kind of tech they

711
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:39.480
had rolling around in nineteen eighty, but I would imagine

712
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:43.079
to me, like the angular movement. It's not a smooth movement.

713
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:45.800
It's not anything like that. I mean it is. What

714
00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:48.719
I'm imagining is like zig zagon like it is all

715
00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:51.800
over the place. It is, but it's very sharp turns

716
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:56.400
and I don't feel that we now. Granted, I'm sure

717
00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:59.760
the military has all kinds of stuff that we don't

718
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:04.320
know they have, but I feel like it was Yeah,

719
00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:06.880
I feel like it was not at a point Our

720
00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:10.639
technology was not at a point to do that. We had. Yeah,

721
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:13.480
we had super fast jets, but you had to make

722
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:17.719
a very long turn to turn that bitch around. You

723
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:19.639
can just zoom zoom me everywhere.

724
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:21.559
There was no none of that.

725
00:41:21.639 --> 00:41:24.320
There were no drones or anything like that mm hmm,

726
00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:26.079
helicopter style drones.

727
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:32.960
Yeah, but still they would not have reacted the way

728
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:41.400
they were reacting. We had something similar at the time. Yeah,

729
00:41:41.559 --> 00:41:44.960
they would have recognized it, or their voice would have

730
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:51.199
been less surprised, I guess you could say, or less concerned.

731
00:41:53.239 --> 00:41:54.360
I feel it's just.

732
00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:56.800
Because they clearly had no idea what that was. They

733
00:41:57.400 --> 00:41:58.159
didn't and not.

734
00:41:58.119 --> 00:42:01.639
Only did they have. Yeah, shit, there is something out

735
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:04.480
here and we don't know what it is, and it

736
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:09.320
is doing some weird stuff. Now, we can't technically say

737
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:12.360
that we don't know what other countries might have in

738
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:17.519
blah blah blah blah. But in theory in the eighties,

739
00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:23.079
we were supposed to be superior. Correct in theory. Yeah,

740
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:26.840
now granted Dyvis, Oh yeah, America's always say they're the best.

741
00:42:28.239 --> 00:42:30.800
Well we got there because we stole the German stuff

742
00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:31.880
after World War Two.

743
00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:35.760
Well we s we stew the scientists.

744
00:42:35.440 --> 00:42:38.440
All the scientists, all they We also took a lot

745
00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:41.000
of their equipment too. Yeah, to make sure that we

746
00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:43.400
took all their equipment and the scientists to learn how

747
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.440
to use it and manipulate it and reverse engineers.

748
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:49.760
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure wasn't it the Cold War

749
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:55.840
there they Wow, I am like really southern tonight where

750
00:42:56.079 --> 00:43:02.440
they went out and actively recruit did scientists and engineers

751
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:05.039
from other countries to get a leg up? Or was

752
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:06.920
that prior to the Cold War?

753
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:07.880
Probably?

754
00:43:08.239 --> 00:43:12.280
That's I think that's pretty much any time. But yeah, especially.

755
00:43:14.320 --> 00:43:17.119
Gosh nuclear like primo time.

756
00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:21.880
Yeah, anytime we have anytime we're in a conflict like that,

757
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:24.920
we're trying to get an edge. So they're trying to

758
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:27.880
do everything they can. Everybody's trying to get an edge

759
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:32.800
in America. Yeah, it's better of luck doing it. I

760
00:43:32.800 --> 00:43:34.079
think a few times.

761
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:40.880
That's true. So what would you say out of everything

762
00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:45.000
that we have evidence wise, what would you say is

763
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:49.719
the most what's the word I'm looking for for the

764
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:53.239
best evidence, the most influential evidence.

765
00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:55.679
Of this particular UFO.

766
00:43:56.079 --> 00:44:00.840
Yeah, it's probably that it's probably one the full bird

767
00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:04.519
kernel being there and hearing him. He's the one taking

768
00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:07.119
the tape, and not only do you hear him, but

769
00:44:07.159 --> 00:44:10.360
you hear other people talking about what they're seeing in

770
00:44:10.400 --> 00:44:14.360
real time on that tape, and that's probably that's probably

771
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:15.360
better evidence.

772
00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:18.360
Than you're going to get on most things. Yeah, pictures

773
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:19.480
are great.

774
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:21.960
Physical evidence is great if they could have picked something

775
00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:24.920
up and checked it or whatever, but that kind of

776
00:44:24.960 --> 00:44:28.760
stuff can always get lost. You never have real full

777
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:36.000
custody of chaining custody stuff. Yeah, with objects and stuff

778
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:38.880
that sometimes you never know what it actually is, and

779
00:44:39.039 --> 00:44:40.320
pictures are unreliable.

780
00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:43.159
But being able to hear what he's saying in.

781
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:45.000
The moment, how they say it.

782
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:47.519
And being that high of a rank, like, you're not

783
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:49.280
going to find a lot of full bird colonels who

784
00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:52.280
are going to make stuff up just for the sake

785
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:52.960
of making.

786
00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:55.920
Stuff up, especially back in the eighties. So that's to me, Yeah,

787
00:44:55.960 --> 00:45:01.280
I feel like that's very convincing because in the eighties

788
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:05.400
and seventies and so on and so forth, it was

789
00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:11.400
not cool to see a UFO or anything. It just

790
00:45:12.039 --> 00:45:15.440
that was coming out and admitting that you saw that

791
00:45:16.400 --> 00:45:23.559
was a career killer. Yeah, you were scrutinized and made

792
00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:25.280
fun of and just.

793
00:45:25.559 --> 00:45:27.119
Oh yeah, the people who drag you to the mud,

794
00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:30.679
especially in the newspaper, in the media, stuff like that.

795
00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:34.159
Ye, I'm assuming being a colonel, you spend an awful

796
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:39.920
long time in the military, that is your career. Oh yeah, yeah,

797
00:45:40.440 --> 00:45:43.079
not like not like you had a lot of options.

798
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:48.599
If you got canned in the military, you probably didn't

799
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:50.400
have a lot of options to come back to you

800
00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:52.280
not to match, would anybody? Hi? Are you because you're

801
00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:54.440
going to have that label on your record.

802
00:45:54.960 --> 00:45:57.079
Yeah, because when you're yeah, when you're at the point

803
00:45:57.079 --> 00:46:00.480
of a colonel, you're either closer retirement or you're getting

804
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:03.440
ready to step into a brigadier general role. So you're

805
00:46:03.480 --> 00:46:07.000
not looking to make waves in your community with that rank.

806
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.679
You either want to make sure your retirement is set

807
00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:12.079
or you want to make sure you're good to go

808
00:46:12.199 --> 00:46:16.079
for the next level, because that big step between colonel

809
00:46:16.079 --> 00:46:17.039
and brigadier general.

810
00:46:17.960 --> 00:46:21.239
Yeah, and even to this day, even with all the

811
00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:24.960
hype and all of the people that are accepting and

812
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:27.320
how much more accepted it is that these people are

813
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:32.079
seeing these things. They still even lower ranking people do

814
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:35.559
not want to admit that they saw something out there, right,

815
00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:39.760
and so to me, especially back in the eighties when

816
00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:43.559
it was very much like less, it was more pooh pooh,

817
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:46.639
I feel like that would have been more of a

818
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:50.480
reason for them not to I. However, as far as

819
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:54.800
most convincing evidence, I would say the Geiger readings from

820
00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:58.079
the landing site to me, would probably be the most

821
00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:02.800
influential evidence here. It is concrete, it is physical, it

822
00:47:02.880 --> 00:47:05.719
is measurable, and it's well documented.

823
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.360
Yeah, stuff like that doesn't just happen.

824
00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:11.800
Yeah, they didn't just say, oh, the Geiger got a reading.

825
00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:14.519
It is no, we have references here on what I

826
00:47:14.519 --> 00:47:16.960
don't know what the hell those meetings readings mean, but

827
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:20.679
there's readings there.

828
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:25.320
Have the depressions in the ground, have the three marks

829
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:27.679
with the things set down, and then in the center

830
00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:32.559
of it, have that the branches and all that stuff. Yeah.

831
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:35.880
I wanted to see if I could find because that

832
00:47:35.960 --> 00:47:37.639
guy wrote down all those ones.

833
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:41.360
And zeros oh, to see if it meant something like

834
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:41.639
he just.

835
00:47:41.639 --> 00:47:42.920
Wrote him down because he felt like he had to

836
00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:43.480
get him down.

837
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:49.599
When he finally figured it out, I said by bitcoin.

838
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:50.840
He was like, I don't know what that means.

839
00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:56.440
We have a question about your extended warranty.

840
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:04.239
Oh my god, that we have a question about extended warranty.

841
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:06.320
Yeah. So he actually wrote all these things in a

842
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:09.360
notebook and he kept the notebook back then. They couldn't

843
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:11.920
decipher any of it. And one thing that I thought

844
00:48:11.960 --> 00:48:14.719
was interesting was they actually took that data and ran

845
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:17.239
it into a computer and one of the phrases that

846
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:22.480
was revealed is quote explore exploration of humanity and had

847
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:23.960
a set of coordinates.

848
00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:27.440
That's funny, that's fun We should run it through chat

849
00:48:27.480 --> 00:48:28.840
GPT sEH what it comes out with.

850
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:30.440
Oh I wish I had it. I'm sure it was

851
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:32.760
like really long, that's what she said.

852
00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:32.880
But it is.

853
00:48:37.440 --> 00:48:39.239
But that's my thing is so some of it they

854
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:42.480
didn't understand. It didn't make sense since they was given

855
00:48:42.559 --> 00:48:45.880
him message that didn't make any sense. But then part

856
00:48:45.920 --> 00:48:49.159
of it was go to this location, and they still did.

857
00:48:49.199 --> 00:48:51.440
They don't know what's at that location that it's saying

858
00:48:51.519 --> 00:48:59.079
exploration of humanity at said coordinates. But I wanted to

859
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:04.440
see if I could find on the message what binary

860
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:09.519
is I don't care about that. From numbers of sentences

861
00:49:09.559 --> 00:49:14.320
the binary code in Peniston's notebook, so it's sixteen pages

862
00:49:14.400 --> 00:49:16.719
of handwritten binary data.

863
00:49:17.320 --> 00:49:17.840
Oh fun.

864
00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:22.800
And it says it the first part there's sets of

865
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:27.800
eight digits. They're consistent groupings. Generally it contains three to

866
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:32.199
twenty binary digits, and it says it no longer seems

867
00:49:32.239 --> 00:49:35.760
possible to find scans of actual notebooks online, so you

868
00:49:35.800 --> 00:49:37.800
can't really find They used to have scanned in and

869
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:41.760
now all of a sudden you can't find it. Oh interesting,

870
00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:42.559
like you said.

871
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:43.480
It sounds like a cover up.

872
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:46.559
Yep, missing information, like you said.

873
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:49.159
That's right. You can't keep shaging custy on stuff like

874
00:49:49.199 --> 00:49:53.920
that since in for thirty five years, yeah, forty five years.

875
00:49:54.480 --> 00:50:00.280
And it says to see here, it says continue in

876
00:50:00.280 --> 00:50:02.239
the same way. The first part of the message turns

877
00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:09.639
out to be exploration of huh, says og humanity.

878
00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:11.159
OG humanity.

879
00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:21.400
Maybe they're hip, yeah cool cool. Now it says that

880
00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:23.199
instead of of, but a lot of people translate it

881
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:26.239
into of, So it's did the aliens make a spelling

882
00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:28.159
error or is there another energy?

883
00:50:28.719 --> 00:50:31.400
They were listening to gangster Wrap back in nineteen eighty.

884
00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:32.000
That's what it was.

885
00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:35.360
Yep, And it says the message fails after this point

886
00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:37.239
because we end up with numbers that are greater than

887
00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:42.440
one twenty eight and therefore not the typical binary code.

888
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:46.039
It's reasonable to us, Yeah, it's reasonable to assume that

889
00:50:46.079 --> 00:50:48.599
the errors have made or have been made at some

890
00:50:48.679 --> 00:50:52.519
point during the transcription. And it's actually necessary to insert

891
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:54.880
a half dozen extra digits into the data to end

892
00:50:54.960 --> 00:50:59.360
up with something that is convincingly text. So there's no

893
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:01.039
magic way of care act because you don't know what

894
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:05.679
you need to correct. And again it's and then it

895
00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:08.440
says here, of course it's a vague kind of sense

896
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:11.480
with references to eyes of your eyes and the location

897
00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:15.280
of the pyramids and so on. Can you imagine if

898
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:17.480
they were able to decode and all of these fucking

899
00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:21.679
coordinates were all of the pyramids, that'd be cool. And

900
00:51:21.719 --> 00:51:25.199
then what if you had coordinates and it wasn't like

901
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:27.840
it wasn't a pyramid that you could see. What if

902
00:51:27.840 --> 00:51:31.119
it was like underground and it just over the years

903
00:51:31.119 --> 00:51:33.280
had been covered up kind of like, how isn't it

904
00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:36.719
there's mayan or ASTech like areas where it's like the

905
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:38.639
ground just keeps like building up over it.

906
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:41.679
Yeah, there's a bunch of them that there's one particular

907
00:51:41.760 --> 00:51:44.159
and I think it was Mexico that they thought it

908
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.559
was a mountain. They just thought it was a hill. Yeah,

909
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:48.320
and then they started digging into it and they thought

910
00:51:48.400 --> 00:51:51.679
it wasn't just one pyramid. It was like several pyramids

911
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:53.360
built on top of each other. And then they just

912
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:55.679
covered it up before the Spanish got there. Yeah.

913
00:51:55.760 --> 00:52:00.440
Yeah. And if that's the case, and it natural really

914
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.119
does that. And if you can go to all these

915
00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:06.880
coordinates and you're seeing Egypt and you're seeing like all

916
00:52:06.880 --> 00:52:11.519
over the globe these pyramids, and you find a location

917
00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:16.920
that it's a pyramid or pyramids that are buried, Like

918
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:21.800
we just discussed how much earlier could civilization have existed.

919
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:26.039
If we found that, that would blow the textbooks out

920
00:52:26.119 --> 00:52:26.800
of the water.

921
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:31.719
I think humanity is a lot older than we think

922
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:32.079
it is.

923
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:37.079
I actually just who is I think I was at

924
00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.239
work and we were talking about how long humans have

925
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:43.880
been humans to modern day humans, and I think it

926
00:52:43.960 --> 00:52:47.280
said the like Homo sapiens have been around for three

927
00:52:47.360 --> 00:52:54.000
hundred and fifteen thousand years. To me, that is much.

928
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:56.400
I laughed at one person, They're like, what two thousand years?

929
00:52:56.440 --> 00:53:02.400
I'm like, kin, know what bcings? And I was like,

930
00:53:02.679 --> 00:53:05.079
I was giving us like fifteen twenty thousand years. I

931
00:53:05.119 --> 00:53:09.119
didn't realize. Now, granted, it was Homo sapiens in general,

932
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:14.599
not like sapien or we had fire or tools or whatever,

933
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:20.199
or drawings, whatever the case is. It's just Homo sapiens

934
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:22.599
as a whole. But then we got on the whole

935
00:53:22.599 --> 00:53:24.800
topic of if we all evolved from monkeys, why the

936
00:53:24.840 --> 00:53:26.599
hell do we still have monkeys?

937
00:53:28.000 --> 00:53:28.159
Oh?

938
00:53:29.480 --> 00:53:33.039
Yeah, that's been my that's been my take on evolution,

939
00:53:33.239 --> 00:53:33.920
Like how do.

940
00:53:33.880 --> 00:53:37.519
We Yeah, I was gonna say, I watched those evolution

941
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:39.039
shows with my son all the time, and I had

942
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:41.440
this thought earlier. It's like, how many times have different

943
00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:45.199
creatures become? Like because they always talk about the chain

944
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:49.480
of evolution, Right, so we all started four billion years ago, right,

945
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:52.960
everything's just evolved from there. But how many different times

946
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:57.000
have new stuff evolved while everything else was still evolving? So, like,

947
00:53:57.079 --> 00:54:02.679
how many different branches are there? Maybe we're all from

948
00:54:02.719 --> 00:54:04.599
the same thing, but I have to assume that like

949
00:54:05.400 --> 00:54:09.760
the Earth, Yeah, it started making life back then, but

950
00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:13.920
why doesn't it just keep creating new life over and

951
00:54:13.960 --> 00:54:17.119
over again, Like why wouldn't it keep starting? What It's

952
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:21.400
not one tree, it's billions newly evolved trees.

953
00:54:21.480 --> 00:54:25.440
Right now, there are land whales. Where the whales were

954
00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:27.159
in the water, then they came to land, and they

955
00:54:27.159 --> 00:54:29.639
went back to the water. And then I got to

956
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:33.000
totally geek out, and I got to explain the aquatic

957
00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:37.199
ape theory that were Do you know about that one?

958
00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:37.880
No?

959
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:41.880
Okay, So essentially it's we got to a certain point

960
00:54:41.960 --> 00:54:45.280
and then the monkey side of us went to the ground,

961
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:47.679
to land, and then a branch of us went back

962
00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:51.679
into the water and made essentially mr people, not the

963
00:54:51.800 --> 00:54:56.679
pretty like under the sea kind, but like gnarly looking

964
00:54:56.880 --> 00:55:02.880
webbed hand kind of half fish people. Yeah, and so

965
00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:05.000
that's the aquatic ape theory, that part of us went

966
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:08.760
back to water, partners went to land. But here's okay,

967
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:11.760
we were getting deep tonight. Oh god, that's not a

968
00:55:11.760 --> 00:55:22.159
really dirty anyway. Essentially, so let's say octopus, octopi octopia.

969
00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:26.800
They think that in asteroid or meteor or some kind

970
00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:31.000
of space rock hit the Earth went into the ocean,

971
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:34.440
and that's octopi are aliens.

972
00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:38.119
Right something Yeah, I mean, something else evolved into.

973
00:55:37.880 --> 00:55:43.599
Our something was introduced from outside our atmosphere and grew

974
00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:48.840
and thrived in our atmosphere. Now, you can't tell me

975
00:55:49.159 --> 00:55:54.960
that one rock hit our planet forever ago, just one

976
00:55:55.039 --> 00:56:00.719
rock or this whole thing, whatever theory you like to believe,

977
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:04.239
even if it's a big bang, you can't tell me

978
00:56:04.320 --> 00:56:07.280
that there was one just one singular thing.

979
00:56:08.599 --> 00:56:10.920
Yeah, And that's what I'm saying too. It's like there's

980
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:13.159
got to be more starting points.

981
00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:17.159
And over this time we're probably getting plumbled, like pummeled

982
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:19.559
with different space rocks and all of this from all

983
00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:23.000
over the place. And who's to say one that little human,

984
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:28.840
that little Homo sapien home or whatever, didn't come from

985
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:33.559
somewhere very far away. Some kind of DNA was there

986
00:56:33.639 --> 00:56:38.400
and it crashed on Earth, and we are aliens, could

987
00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:43.199
very well be it's not impossible. And if that's the case,

988
00:56:43.679 --> 00:56:48.519
that in turn means that there are other people out there.

989
00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:53.000
Given the right circumstances and given the right amount of

990
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:58.320
time and the right stuff, you can essentially create life

991
00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:03.280
everywhere else similar structure, like why wouldn't it follow a

992
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:06.079
similar similar line exactly?

993
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:07.840
And even said.

994
00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:09.880
That like the building blocks of life, they can find

995
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:13.280
it on all different planets, all different asteroids. Everywhere you look,

996
00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:16.400
you find the carbon and the building blocks.

997
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:20.119
Yeah, Like, the biggest thing that makes that sets us

998
00:57:20.119 --> 00:57:26.079
aside from everywhere else is water. Yeah, non acidic water.

999
00:57:28.239 --> 00:57:31.000
That is the main contributing factor to our planet that

1000
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:34.599
makes us different. But that being said, say you don't

1001
00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:37.719
you also don't get one chunk, one tiny speck of

1002
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:41.400
space rock. You have a huge meteor or an asteroid

1003
00:57:41.440 --> 00:57:44.639
or whatever that then breaks into smaller pieces and not

1004
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:48.639
always crashes into the planet, It flies by, and then

1005
00:57:48.800 --> 00:57:51.119
we're getting the remnants of that's falling off of it

1006
00:57:51.199 --> 00:57:54.960
that are getting pulled into the atmosphere. If set asteroid

1007
00:57:55.000 --> 00:58:00.599
passes three planets with the same DNA that's railing off

1008
00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:05.480
of it, there might very well be beings on other

1009
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:08.760
planets that are just different than us because they had

1010
00:58:08.800 --> 00:58:15.119
to adapt and overcome. Yeah, maybe whatever grew and they

1011
00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:18.559
didn't require water we landed. It could have been that

1012
00:58:18.599 --> 00:58:20.960
we landed in the middle of the freaking puddle of water,

1013
00:58:21.280 --> 00:58:25.559
and that's why our bodies are like what ninety percent water? Yeah,

1014
00:58:25.559 --> 00:58:27.119
because I think it could overcome.

1015
00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:29.800
I think if we were able to get to Venus

1016
00:58:29.800 --> 00:58:32.320
and Mars were able to dig down deep enough into

1017
00:58:32.320 --> 00:58:35.480
the soil and look there, we would find signs of life.

1018
00:58:35.800 --> 00:58:38.719
Oh yeah, one hundred percent believe that would happen. And

1019
00:58:39.039 --> 00:58:41.480
not only that, just the sheer size of the universe.

1020
00:58:41.960 --> 00:58:43.239
Obviously there's life somewhere.

1021
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:43.840
There's life.

1022
00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:46.239
Fit. Yeah, there's obviously life.

1023
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:48.679
We were also talking about this work. Oh my gosh,

1024
00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:50.199
this is so funny that I brought this topic up.

1025
00:58:50.199 --> 00:58:53.440
What I did, because I literally this last week is

1026
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:55.519
what I brought it up. And we were talking about

1027
00:58:55.559 --> 00:58:59.840
how even when you look up at the sky, you

1028
00:59:00.199 --> 00:59:05.079
are seeing light that has potentially been traveling through space

1029
00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:09.239
for millions of years, and you are just now seeing

1030
00:59:09.360 --> 00:59:15.840
the light. And even if that same star that emitted

1031
00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:20.519
that light fifteen million years ago, even though it's burnout

1032
00:59:20.599 --> 00:59:22.840
and done, it might be a black hole by now,

1033
00:59:23.159 --> 00:59:25.920
you're still seeing that light. So you never really know

1034
00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:29.679
what's out there ever, because you're never gonna have a

1035
00:59:29.719 --> 00:59:33.880
good gauge. Pretty much it's traveling at different light speed

1036
00:59:33.920 --> 00:59:36.360
than it's traveling at this so you never really know.

1037
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:39.519
You never know. I should have been an astrologist, because nothing,

1038
00:59:39.559 --> 00:59:40.679
you could just make that shit up.

1039
00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:44.719
That's not real. Star's not even there anymore. That's just

1040
00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:46.599
been gone for million years.

1041
00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:50.000
It was a speck on the lens. It's like being

1042
00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:52.199
a weather man. You don't have to be you know,

1043
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:53.760
know what's going on. He's got to be good at

1044
00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:59.679
presenting it. If there's any weather people out there, I

1045
00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:01.960
really appreciate you guys. I like to know when it's

1046
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:02.440
gonna rain.

1047
01:00:05.800 --> 01:00:09.079
Don't mean to minimize your your I'm.

1048
01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:12.920
Not grading all weather men, although the weather afts put

1049
01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:14.199
them out of commission, didn't it.

1050
01:00:16.039 --> 01:00:17.559
I don't watch the Weather channel anymore.

1051
01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:22.400
Yeah. Sure, there's just there's so much to unpack with

1052
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:29.239
that theory, because to me, if we all came from

1053
01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:35.320
the same thing, then we would all be interchangeable to

1054
01:00:35.400 --> 01:00:38.760
some capacity. Like you can have a horse and a

1055
01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:42.519
donkey and make a mule, but you can't mix anything

1056
01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:44.239
with a human and get anything viable.

1057
01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:47.480
So not anymore. You could mix.

1058
01:00:47.559 --> 01:00:52.800
Neanderthal back in the day was other, but they were

1059
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:53.760
other humans too.

1060
01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:57.679
Like you said, they weren't apes, they weren't monkeys, they weren't.

1061
01:00:57.599 --> 01:00:59.840
Yes, they were humanoid. They were humanoid.

1062
01:01:00.159 --> 01:01:05.639
Care but what two chromosomes from chimpanzees or something like that, or.

1063
01:01:05.559 --> 01:01:08.960
Two Well, we're only one chromosome away from a banana.

1064
01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:11.119
Yeah see, And.

1065
01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:15.079
I don't know why I know that they're like one

1066
01:01:15.119 --> 01:01:17.800
gene away from a banana, are.

1067
01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:21.519
We isn't like vegetable oil, like one chromosome away from

1068
01:01:21.719 --> 01:01:23.000
crude oil or something like that.

1069
01:01:23.239 --> 01:01:28.320
Yeah, it's And again, if we all came from the

1070
01:01:28.360 --> 01:01:32.679
same thing, from the same place one, there wouldn't be

1071
01:01:32.880 --> 01:01:36.239
different species. I mean, there might be different species, but.

1072
01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:39.639
We would all be a good example.

1073
01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:42.800
Because the octopus is a good example because everything else,

1074
01:01:42.840 --> 01:01:45.119
every other animal you look at that has a heart

1075
01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:47.800
and lungs and stuff like that, they've got one, you

1076
01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:48.280
know what I mean.

1077
01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:51.559
And the octopus has what three hearts and two brains.

1078
01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:51.960
Or something like that.

1079
01:01:52.119 --> 01:01:54.119
Yeah, it is completely.

1080
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:57.599
Where do that? Where does that chain? Where did that

1081
01:01:57.679 --> 01:01:58.199
starting at?

1082
01:01:58.280 --> 01:01:58.360
Like?

1083
01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:00.000
How does do you break it?

1084
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:03.800
You know what? I need a couple extra only octopi.

1085
01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:09.360
You only have octopie and octopi. You don't that the

1086
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:11.280
only thing that's close would be a squid.

1087
01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:16.639
That's even close, but that you've got octopus, squid and cuddlefish,

1088
01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:17.239
you know what I mean?

1089
01:02:18.519 --> 01:02:22.719
And I'm with you on that is the case. Now

1090
01:02:25.239 --> 01:02:29.280
dinosaurs not only.

1091
01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:32.000
That's just proof that we're in a simulation at this point,

1092
01:02:32.599 --> 01:02:33.559
I want to go down.

1093
01:02:33.360 --> 01:02:33.920
A real round.

1094
01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:37.159
It doesn't make It doesn't make. Dinosaurs don't make any

1095
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:42.480
sense because essentially you have turkeys and chickens and they

1096
01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:45.000
supposedly came down from dinosaurs and.

1097
01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:56.039
Oh, seagulls, arerannosaurs, rexes. I believe that you ever seen

1098
01:02:56.039 --> 01:03:01.079
them just attack and eat other birds whole the absolutely dinosaurs.

1099
01:03:01.320 --> 01:03:04.280
Oh yeah, I can see that definitely. But it's but

1100
01:03:04.360 --> 01:03:06.280
you have the chickens and the birds and all that,

1101
01:03:07.079 --> 01:03:10.400
but then you also have alligator, gator gar Like these

1102
01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:12.880
things were one hundred.

1103
01:03:13.519 --> 01:03:14.719
Yeah, they didn't change.

1104
01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:19.800
They never changed, and they never let and they got smaller. Technically,

1105
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:22.199
I think they did get smaller on the scale, but

1106
01:03:22.239 --> 01:03:25.039
they still are the exact same thing. It's like fun size.

1107
01:03:25.840 --> 01:03:29.239
Yeah, these yeah, so they have run around.

1108
01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:33.880
Now, explain evolution now, right, How do you have something

1109
01:03:33.880 --> 01:03:37.199
that didn't change over millions and millions of years. But

1110
01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:42.199
you're telling me that we went from a speck on

1111
01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:43.119
a rock's ass.

1112
01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:47.119
They always say that, like crocodiles for an example, and

1113
01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:50.639
alligators and sharks are a perfect species because they've never

1114
01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:52.440
changed for millions and millions of years.

1115
01:03:52.440 --> 01:03:54.079
But if they're perfect talk them.

1116
01:03:54.079 --> 01:03:56.840
They're not building buildings and roads, and how come they're

1117
01:03:56.880 --> 01:03:57.559
not talking.

1118
01:03:57.280 --> 01:03:58.480
To each other on cell phones?

1119
01:03:59.400 --> 01:03:59.920
Exactly?

1120
01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:05.280
They couldn't get to the pyramids that the alien They

1121
01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:07.760
couldn't touch the pyramids and download all the information that

1122
01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:10.000
they didn't know how to make rock tools.

1123
01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:11.599
They didn't learn how to do brass.

1124
01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:15.639
Oh he's gonna touch the button from Nemo when he's

1125
01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:19.280
up there, and he's gonna touch the budy like that's

1126
01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:25.880
all I'm thinking. But I'm with you, and again now

1127
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:27.679
I will say when you're saying, oh, how come we

1128
01:04:27.719 --> 01:04:31.559
haven't had all of these things happened and starting over

1129
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:34.239
and all of that. I don't know about you guys,

1130
01:04:34.239 --> 01:04:36.119
but I don't remember the last time there was an

1131
01:04:36.840 --> 01:04:41.760
asteroid strike or a meteor or a any kind of

1132
01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:44.199
rock that came down.

1133
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:48.639
It was apparently one that went right by a couples.

1134
01:04:48.159 --> 01:04:53.039
Right by us. But I didn't see anything burning into

1135
01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:57.039
the atmosphere or surviving the atmosphere. It wouldn't be able

1136
01:04:57.079 --> 01:04:58.880
to do anything if it burned in the atmosphere and

1137
01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:02.199
have to burn off, but then still have something left.

1138
01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:06.719
Now do you think we're gonna find out anything? When

1139
01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:09.719
three to one Atlas actually shows up, that one that

1140
01:05:09.760 --> 01:05:13.440
everybody's been talking about lately, the interstellar object that's been

1141
01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:20.159
changing course and shooting off little sending off little little

1142
01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:21.000
things on the way.

1143
01:05:21.039 --> 01:05:24.239
It's everybody.

1144
01:05:24.920 --> 01:05:29.000
Everybody's been I say everybody, But because I look at

1145
01:05:29.360 --> 01:05:33.559
everything is a conspiracy thing that I watch on Instagram.

1146
01:05:34.000 --> 01:05:38.480
But is it a way to cause fear? Just to

1147
01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:39.400
cause fear.

1148
01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:43.519
That's a good point. That's the way they're gonna get

1149
01:05:43.880 --> 01:05:45.039
That's the way they're going to get us to have

1150
01:05:45.079 --> 01:05:46.039
the one world government.

1151
01:05:47.159 --> 01:05:48.599
Yeah, is to have every have.

1152
01:05:48.519 --> 01:05:54.199
Something one nation under Earth against all aliens.

1153
01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:58.559
Somebody asked me the other day where I thought the

1154
01:05:58.599 --> 01:06:01.079
capital of Earth would be if we all became a

1155
01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:05.679
one world nation, and I was like, Constantinople.

1156
01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:13.039
It's the safest. They don't like radiation.

1157
01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:17.760
Yeah, no one wants to go there, and if you do,

1158
01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:22.159
you end up bunky. If something wiped out all dinosaurs

1159
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:28.480
in theory, then we wouldn't have descendants of dinosaurs, And

1160
01:06:28.519 --> 01:06:30.280
how would they have survived? And nothing else?

1161
01:06:32.639 --> 01:06:35.280
Some of them survived. That's the going theory is some

1162
01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:37.199
of them.

1163
01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:39.960
How could some survive? But how could some survive?

1164
01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:47.119
In some not just the little ones I don't know.

1165
01:06:47.280 --> 01:06:55.280
And then you have the Ice Age yep, and you survive.

1166
01:06:56.039 --> 01:06:57.880
The Volcanic Age is the one that I was just

1167
01:06:58.440 --> 01:07:01.840
washing with my son, where we had volcanic eruptions over

1168
01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:04.159
half the size of America for one hundred thousand years

1169
01:07:04.199 --> 01:07:06.559
and spewed so much CO two in the atmosphere that

1170
01:07:07.079 --> 01:07:09.880
it raised the temperature by ten degrees all over the Earth,

1171
01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:15.280
basically killing everything, turned the ocean into a sulphuric bath essentially,

1172
01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:19.360
and then we came back from that. No problem.

1173
01:07:19.960 --> 01:07:22.880
It doesn't make any sense. None of it makes sense.

1174
01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:27.320
Something just woke up out of a cave. I was like, Oh,

1175
01:07:27.519 --> 01:07:31.760
I was asleep for one hundred thousand years while everything

1176
01:07:31.800 --> 01:07:32.320
else died.

1177
01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:38.719
Now, was the Volcanic Age before the last age? So

1178
01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:39.920
it was after the Ice Age?

1179
01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:41.599
No, it was before the iced because it was the

1180
01:07:41.679 --> 01:07:44.880
last great extinction. It's the last great extinction that wiped

1181
01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:46.679
out ninety percent of life on the planet.

1182
01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:51.639
And how if we had dinosaurs, and there was probably

1183
01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:53.880
millions of them for millions of years, how do we

1184
01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:58.440
only have a few fossils and you never get a

1185
01:07:58.440 --> 01:07:59.639
whole fossil.

1186
01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:02.400
And that tells you exactly why I think there's remnants

1187
01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:04.960
of life on other planets because it's very hard to

1188
01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:08.239
see once the sands of time have washed everything away.

1189
01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:13.480
Considering we're still finding stuff, We're digging every we dig everywhere,

1190
01:08:14.440 --> 01:08:18.600
We're still finding fossils here and there, and.

1191
01:08:20.359 --> 01:08:24.439
I just it doesn't makes none of it makes sense.

1192
01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:27.800
None of it. None of it makes sense. Where did

1193
01:08:27.800 --> 01:08:32.560
we come from? It could be anywhere. It could be anywhere.

1194
01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:34.199
Like you said, now it.

1195
01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:36.479
Makes sense if you realize it's all echoes in the programming.

1196
01:08:38.479 --> 01:08:42.239
Yep. And that's the thing too, is like, how do

1197
01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:48.119
you get a chicken and a human? Does essentially a

1198
01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:54.960
rhino come from a Oh god, Trice Aratops? No, so

1199
01:08:55.039 --> 01:08:57.720
Trice Aratops had the big didn't it have the horn

1200
01:08:57.760 --> 01:08:58.279
on its nose?

1201
01:08:58.479 --> 01:08:59.680
It did have the horn on his nose.

1202
01:08:59.720 --> 01:09:02.319
And that's why I say it's part of the simulation,

1203
01:09:02.560 --> 01:09:05.920
is because you have these echoes of things like and

1204
01:09:05.960 --> 01:09:11.000
then it's always yeah, well you reuse it, Yeah, you

1205
01:09:11.079 --> 01:09:15.039
reuse a bit of code to fill into the next one. Yeah,

1206
01:09:15.039 --> 01:09:16.760
and then you get the similar stuff coming out. And

1207
01:09:16.760 --> 01:09:20.039
it's the reason why every kid is oh man, could

1208
01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:24.199
you imagine if you had a big spikes in your back.

1209
01:09:24.239 --> 01:09:25.920
And then they're like, oh, we found a dinosaur with

1210
01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:28.479
spikes in his back. You're like, oh, you imagine if

1211
01:09:28.479 --> 01:09:30.439
you had horns sticking out of your head. We found

1212
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:32.359
a dinosaur with horn sticking out of its head.

1213
01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:36.800
That actually makes a lot of sense. And then we

1214
01:09:36.880 --> 01:09:40.000
went for how many years believing they were all reptiles.

1215
01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:43.119
Oh yeah, now all of a sudden, they've got feathers.

1216
01:09:44.600 --> 01:09:45.760
Yeah, it had forbid.

1217
01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:49.319
There were some with scales and some with feathers. Right

1218
01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:51.760
now we've got geckos and we've got chickens.

1219
01:09:52.279 --> 01:09:54.479
You know what I love is there's like a meme

1220
01:09:54.600 --> 01:09:58.000
or something. There's like a meme that's what terranda, what

1221
01:09:58.079 --> 01:10:00.720
pale intelligence think terrannosaurs looks like, and it's the old

1222
01:10:00.880 --> 01:10:04.199
picture of it, and like what Hollywood thinks chandosaurs looks like.

1223
01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:06.720
And it's from like Jurassic Park, and it goes what

1224
01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:09.079
terannosaurs actually look like and it just looks like a

1225
01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:10.000
giant sparrow.

1226
01:10:10.560 --> 01:10:14.399
Yeah, it's just a big bird. Oh what was that

1227
01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:16.720
I was watching the other day where it said Cleopatra

1228
01:10:17.960 --> 01:10:21.479
was closer in time to a wooly mammoth than she

1229
01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:25.439
was the building of the pyramids or something like that.

1230
01:10:25.720 --> 01:10:29.680
Oh, Cleoplatra lived closer to cell phones than the building

1231
01:10:29.680 --> 01:10:30.279
of the pyramids.

1232
01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:32.680
Yeah, yeah, how weird is that?

1233
01:10:34.079 --> 01:10:35.760
It's also what was it?

1234
01:10:37.239 --> 01:10:39.520
I want to say, it's Tyrannosaurs lives closer to the

1235
01:10:39.560 --> 01:10:42.880
age of humanity that it lived next to Stegosaurus.

1236
01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:45.199
Oh I didn't know that.

1237
01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:49.840
Yeah, because stegosaurs existed one hundred and sixty five million

1238
01:10:49.920 --> 01:10:53.159
years ago and terannosaurs existed sixty five million years ago,

1239
01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:57.640
to put it closer to us in the overall timeline.

1240
01:10:58.640 --> 01:10:59.640
That's crazy thing.

1241
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:02.760
So we very well could have been t rex snacks.

1242
01:11:04.199 --> 01:11:07.640
It could have been who knows how long pigs on.

1243
01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:12.239
A blanket you get at a fancy party. We had

1244
01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:13.000
our little spears.

1245
01:11:13.159 --> 01:11:15.600
Yeah, if they had found the pyramids first, they touched it,

1246
01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:18.079
but they couldn't touch it because they tiny little arms.

1247
01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:27.279
Let me get closer. I I have t rex arms

1248
01:11:27.319 --> 01:11:29.399
because I got I'm very short. My little arms are

1249
01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:30.760
so short that I'm always like I got little t

1250
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:35.199
rex arms I can't reach. But yeah, so that's just

1251
01:11:36.159 --> 01:11:39.399
I might have to get into that another time. But

1252
01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:42.960
this's just to me. It is so crazy, and there's

1253
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:46.399
so much going on, and this particular case to go

1254
01:11:46.479 --> 01:11:51.760
back to it in Rendell shim I feel so far

1255
01:11:51.880 --> 01:11:55.880
out of everything that I have looked at, this has

1256
01:11:56.359 --> 01:12:04.279
the most and the best evidence across the board. The

1257
01:12:04.319 --> 01:12:10.279
only thing it's missing is no one was subducted that

1258
01:12:10.359 --> 01:12:13.960
we're aware of. Yeah, I don't know who was in

1259
01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:14.680
that farmhouse.

1260
01:12:16.840 --> 01:12:18.840
There was nobody there. They didn't find anybody as far.

1261
01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:21.680
As we know, no casualer in the making of this experiment.

1262
01:12:23.640 --> 01:12:26.399
Know all the sheep were put back fine.

1263
01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:32.520
The upside down where we got fainting goats. But like

1264
01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:36.479
I said, the physical evidence, you've got multiple eyewitnesses on

1265
01:12:36.680 --> 01:12:38.920
multiple days. So the first one, you've got three people

1266
01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:41.039
going out and they're seeing what's going on. Then they're

1267
01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:43.840
sending out the cavalry. Five dudes going out, including the

1268
01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:46.399
high ranking officer because they probably brought him because they

1269
01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:48.279
were like, dude, you're not like, hey, you're not gonna

1270
01:12:48.279 --> 01:12:51.520
believe the ship. Let's go check it out. So he

1271
01:12:51.600 --> 01:12:56.439
goes out with them and you see another craft. It's

1272
01:12:56.479 --> 01:12:59.079
few of stuff out, it's with the hat. So the

1273
01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:01.119
first one there's no it's literally it just kind of

1274
01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:03.960
like covers down, it's flashing lights, it's got the cool

1275
01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:05.800
symbols on it. It gives the dude a message and then

1276
01:13:05.800 --> 01:13:07.920
it bolts right, it's like it and get off, get out.

1277
01:13:08.359 --> 01:13:12.880
The other one is around for two to three hours.

1278
01:13:12.720 --> 01:13:16.960
That's a long sighting, especially for five guys that have

1279
01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:21.640
eyes on it for two or three hours. Yeah, but

1280
01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:23.680
I feel like they're totally different because it's said that

1281
01:13:23.720 --> 01:13:26.279
it was elliptical.

1282
01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:27.119
Is that what it said?

1283
01:13:28.159 --> 01:13:32.600
Yeah, so it wasn't spherical, it wasn't pyramid esque. It

1284
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:35.920
was a different shape. I don't know what elliptical is,

1285
01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:40.600
but I'm guess it gets a different shape. And yeah,

1286
01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:41.920
is that more like a cigarlet?

1287
01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:44.439
I was sort of like a cylinder, but more roundish.

1288
01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:48.479
Oh okay, yeah that makes sense. And this one and

1289
01:13:48.520 --> 01:13:51.199
they said it yeah, because it was doing horizontal movement stuff, right.

1290
01:13:51.760 --> 01:13:55.239
And the thing with is it's got different colored lights.

1291
01:13:55.239 --> 01:13:56.760
The first one was red, white and blue. This one's

1292
01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:59.359
red and yellow, and then there's white lights. I guess

1293
01:13:59.399 --> 01:14:01.520
at the end when it's splits, this one splits into

1294
01:14:01.680 --> 01:14:15.880
more than one thing. It's got a a oh, a

1295
01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:20.319
light beam that comes down. It's got like the you know,

1296
01:14:20.399 --> 01:14:21.840
the first one that goes in he checks the thing

1297
01:14:21.880 --> 01:14:25.000
and he else clear, Yeah that guy, what if it's

1298
01:14:25.079 --> 01:14:30.319
that guy? And then the head honcho Craft comes in next,

1299
01:14:30.319 --> 01:14:32.279
and it's got the light beams and the magma and

1300
01:14:32.319 --> 01:14:36.760
it's got all the bells and whistles on it. Maybe

1301
01:14:37.359 --> 01:14:42.079
interesting theory, but it all right. I guess it's all

1302
01:14:42.079 --> 01:14:43.800
we have for that. I know there's a lot of information.

1303
01:14:43.840 --> 01:14:47.279
I appreciate the extra rabbit hole there because it was

1304
01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:50.079
awesome and it worked out perfect because I just talked

1305
01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:52.960
to somebody about this. Is there anything you want to

1306
01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:55.239
add to what's going on, your thoughts on the evidence

1307
01:14:55.319 --> 01:14:55.800
or anything.

1308
01:14:57.119 --> 01:14:58.760
No, I'm gonna definitely look at that.

1309
01:14:59.079 --> 01:15:01.600
I'm gonna look up that that audio and listened the

1310
01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:02.760
whole thing and see what it's about.

1311
01:15:03.680 --> 01:15:05.239
I definitely want to dig a little more into this

1312
01:15:05.279 --> 01:15:05.800
one now.

1313
01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:08.920
Oh yeah, definitely hook it up. I'm wondering if we

1314
01:15:08.960 --> 01:15:11.920
can find anybody in the Suffolk area that has been

1315
01:15:13.800 --> 01:15:17.840
close at least in the same forest any I might

1316
01:15:17.920 --> 01:15:19.439
have to reach out to some of my other people

1317
01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:21.119
that I record with to see if they know anything

1318
01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:24.159
about it. But one thing I do want to say

1319
01:15:24.520 --> 01:15:28.399
before we head out is it irritates the shit out

1320
01:15:28.439 --> 01:15:30.359
of me when people are like, oh, it's such and

1321
01:15:30.439 --> 01:15:35.479
such as Roswell. It's it's Britain's Roswell, It's Brazil's Roswell.

1322
01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:40.800
Come on, guys, Roswell is Roswell. And I feel like

1323
01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:44.479
if you were going to pick, it'd be like roswell is.

1324
01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:48.560
I guess it came first. Crap. I guess there's that.

1325
01:15:49.239 --> 01:15:52.000
But yeah, my thing is, we did an episode of

1326
01:15:52.119 --> 01:15:55.640
Roswell and I don't think it's aliens at all. I

1327
01:15:55.680 --> 01:15:59.880
went down a hole of I think it's craft.

1328
01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:01.600
It's human craft.

1329
01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:05.199
It was especially after World War Two it was German engineering.

1330
01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:08.319
Wasn't there a body found?

1331
01:16:09.319 --> 01:16:12.239
Yeah, but again chaining custody on bodies, like you have

1332
01:16:12.279 --> 01:16:14.359
no idea if it's true or not, and a lot

1333
01:16:14.439 --> 01:16:15.720
of that stuff went back and forth.

1334
01:16:16.760 --> 01:16:18.600
Yeah, I guess you have a good point there. That

1335
01:16:18.760 --> 01:16:20.880
is definitely one that I'm going to get into at

1336
01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:23.920
some point. I've got some news coming up that I

1337
01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:26.239
might let you know about. And we're not quite ready

1338
01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:28.640
to look the cat out of the bag yet. But

1339
01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:33.880
there's there's a storm of bruin, storm of bruin. But

1340
01:16:34.039 --> 01:16:37.520
I guess with that being said, I guess let us

1341
01:16:37.560 --> 01:16:39.600
know what's up. Check out that link below and until

1342
01:16:39.600 --> 01:16:41.399
next time, everybody, we'll see you.

1343
01:16:42.520 --> 01:16:42.680
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